Blizzhackers

What? Are you kidding me? That's a fucking EPIC error of ridiculous proportions. The amount of ignorance you betray with that *one* error is staggering. All errors are not equal, and this error is fatal. I don't just dismiss it as wrong but the person as idiotic and the readers as gullible. The rest of your post indicates that you have not read the study from Australia in full depth.


Nah, it's just why I don't blame you guys for not being able to have as much perspective. I mean, that's one hell of a resource. Ain't proof of anything, though. I just like bragging. I'm surprised you have so much esteem for people with credentials after being to college. It's really kind of easy to bully some of these teachers around intellectually, sometimes even in their own field of expertise.

again -- maybe I am just blind... I only skimmed the article... but read the discussion section like you said... where does it say that?


lol i've noticed


Actually a bunch of professors were like you said... fucking retards... but others were not... and just a few were epic professors that challenged me everyday to reevaluate my view of myself and how I perceived the world. Like I said before... credentials are not everything... nor are they proof in fact... but on that same note... they are not pointless as you paint.


lol I remember one of my finals... one of the questions was "Herbivores eat what?" multiple choice... after the final I sent him a long vitriolic hate-filled email about how shitty his class was and how we was doing a disservice to everyone involved... I learned that in my kindergarten dinosaur play... if not before.

"that"?

the fatal error... supposedly in bold... Fluoride never leaves the body... how the hell did I loose you on that one?

http://www.fluoridealert.org/mullenix1995.pdf

Bottom of the last page.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/mullenix1995.pdf

hey what gives this isn't what I looked at

Look at the concentration of fluoride given. The study itself says it's equivalent to "high" doses in humans.

LOL no wonder -- I was like no it does not say that... that is the study I have been talking about... it is the one I linked on page 4... I read that page like 5 times thinking I was an idiot for missing it... i had a feeling we were reading off different scripts that is why I relinked it...

anyways yah i read the dosage they gave the rats... it did seem quite high... but she mentions it is a cumulative toxin as do others... I don't postulate to know whether it is or isnt... I am also rather tired of this discussion... I am going to bed. nice chatting with you

I was wondering how you could of read that study in 3 mins...

Before I go and get myself in a tizzy pulling out evidence:
http://books.google.com/books?id=k0wYvn ... ue&f=false

Do you find this source trustworthy, or are they "in on it"?

They say some things I was not aware of like "Fluorine is considered an essential element." and the fact that nobody can actually manufacture a fluorine-free environment to test the hypothesis. I guess one could say it is a cumulative toxin in the same sense calcium is a 'cumulative toxin'. Both assertions raise an eyebrow regarding framing issues of a 'dihydrogen monoxide' nature.

To put it in terms that you will understand:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi70.html
iirc, serum fluorine binds with calcium in the blood.

I think that article is pretty sensationalist but has its merits btw.

The flouride in water was used to help your teeth. Minerals in the water is proven to decay teeth faster.

but now that you suggested that flouride can give you brittle bones, i can't say anything else but to pick your poison.

I thought fluoride toxicity was common knowledge? Yeah, topical application is beneficial for oral health. Guess what else is? Semen. Needless to say, you're sure as hell not going to find me consuming ejaculate for it's purported topical benefits. Same goes with fluoride.

I'll keep fluoride in my toothpaste where it belongs, thanks.

And despite all the naysayers, there is mainstream scientific knowledge citing potential hazards of fluoride over-consumption.

Reuters: 'Second Thoughts about Fluoride,' Reports Scientific American

there have been 5 cases of skeletal fluorosis in the past 30 years...

the fluoride in water isn't for you anyway, it's for kids.

Again, consumption =/ topical application. I frankly don't care if its for the kids or not. It's only effective when topically applied. Ingestion is worthless for oral health and potentially dangerous.

One might treat a cut in their mouth by rinsing with hydrogen peroxide. By what logic do we begin to dilute H202 in water and drink it instead?

ingested fluoride isn't useless, for KIDS. while their teeth are still developing it's incorporated in place of a hydroxyl group which results in a more acid-resistant enamel -> decreased incidence of caries.

Again, I'm quite familiar with how it's topical application remineralizes teeth. If you have a source stating how physical consumption increases fluoride levels in saliva, then present it. Otherwise, the benefits are only achieved for the period of time in which the water passes through your mouth.

Using ingestion as a means to achieve topical benefits is just bad science.