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 Post subject: Could political unrest / revolt happen in the United States?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:56 pm 
 
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With all the turmoil that has happened and is still happening in other parts of the world do you think that America would ever join in with a full blown revolution?

Right now I don't see it happening anytime soon. I could however see a regression to darker times with all of the fundie groups popping up everywhere along with the tons of lobbying happening where a vote isn't about how good your ideas are but rather how much you're getting paid and supported to push an agenda.

If people were to wake up tomorrow and realize the mess infront of their eyes I think it could get violent. This isn't something that can be fixed by politics in the current system we have. Too much red tape and political bullshit plaguing a large amount of political heads.

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 Post subject: Re: Could political unrest / revolt happen in the United Sta
PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:14 am 
 
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In the case of something like a large economic collapse, I'd foresee maybe a few days or a week of violence and turmoil in the U.S., but not a revolution. I'm not even sure what type of specific positive reform could be accomplished by such a full-blown revolt here because it seems that everything is so deeply entangled and you'd have to dismantle so many different systems to accomplish an end goal.

I think that holding all of the politicians accountable for their actions and decisions is a very good thing, but also that even if we fixed that problem completely, we'd still have many other very big problems to solve. Like you mentioned originally, one of those things that would have to happen would be that people need to take more responsibility and control of their lives. The problem with that is that *most* people would have to change in order for that to occur, and I feel like it's quite a lot to ask of most people.

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 Post subject: Re: Could political unrest / revolt happen in the United Sta
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:22 pm 
 
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We had the occupy protests. All the homeless people, and people without jobs, gathered into tightly controlled areas to protest a system they didn't understand. So, of course, they eventually turned on each other and all the idealists realized how terrible a society is without standards of living. I saw the SF occupy first hand and as bad as the homeless problem is in this city it has never been worse than when all the dirty, disheveled, drugged out dregs of humanity gathered from all over into a park that used to house only a few migrants. They clashed with the career homeless, they clashed with the tourists, they didn't understand that the way they were living was not translatable to the way us with the jobs lived.
It was dirty, it was disgusting, and eventually it imploded without accomplishing a thing except to turn away the idealists who actually had the power to change things.
In my experience the only people who complained about banks and such were people who had already made poor decisions and didn't feel like they could recover from them. The irony is that the banks WANT you to recover from them. We got into this whole credit mess because the banks were so lenient on people making poor economic choices, buying things they simply could not afford.

I personally don't have a credit card. It's not that I don't trust them, it's that I don't full understand credit and until I do I won't get one. But more-over it's because I simply haven't needed one. I've created a position where I do not need credit to get by except, possibly, in emergencies which is why credit was developed in the first place.
I rely solely on the money I get from my full time job and buy nothing that I cannot afford out-right. I do not understand the people who want to live so far above themselves and then complain when their poor planning comes crashing down around them, on them.
If you can manage the economic implications of credit in your life then more power to you, it's definitely a good way to live.

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