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 Post subject: Canada has a law that news must not be misleading
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:39 pm 
 
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Totally changes their political environment, and it's not so bipartisan either.
A politician tried to remove the law, and met up with massive resistance.
The US used to have a similar law until the early seventies.

Today, we've got Faux news which has been caught in plenty of fabrications because it takes the general stance that fiction is great for ratings.
(And Fox is illegal in Canada).

I learned that from reddit, and here I just summarized it because you've got a busy day ahead of you.
Why can't people say what they want to in less than a 3 page essay?!

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 Post subject: Re: Canada has a law that news must not be misleading
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:10 pm 
 
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How does this law prevent censorship of commentary, opinion, and criticism? "Misleading" is an incredibly slippery slope. People ought to be able to publish whatever rhetoric they like and leave it to the reader to judge it's validity. If particular information is important to you you always cross-check sources! Based upon your one sentence description this is a terrible law.

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 Post subject: Re: Canada has a law that news must not be misleading
PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:17 pm 
 
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Here in the US we have something called the first amendment

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Here in the US we have something called the first amendment
Too bad we are losing it..

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How does this law prevent censorship of commentary, opinion, and criticism? "Misleading" is an incredibly slippery slope. People ought to be able to publish whatever rhetoric they like and leave it to the reader to judge it's validity. If particular information is important to you you always cross-check sources! Based upon your one sentence description this is a terrible law.

Britain has a law like this, except it applies to politicians. We also used to have this law.

Despite the fact that it seems like a slippery slope, these laws work(ed) really well.

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 Post subject: Re: Canada has a law that news must not be misleading
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:21 pm 
 
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Here in the US we have something called the first amendment



I don't know what exactly you think this means but you obviously have no idea how media is governed at all if you would make a ignorant statement like that.

In the United States any kind of opinion based news has to offer another side of the opinion otherwise it is illegal and they can be fined or lose their license.

It is actually untrue that Fox News straight up lies but it is still true that they are misleading. However if you are stupid enough to believe everything someone tells you because they are telling you it you deserve to be mislead and spoon-fed bullshit. What Fox News will do is something like this. They go into a abortion clinic and ask how many women are having a abortion today, lets say 3 women they ask are and only one says no but she is thinking about it. Now they can say 3/4 women their pole questioned said they are having an abortion and the 1/4 of the women are thinking about it. Did they lie? No, but they did mislead you by doing research in a place that favors what they want on the news.

The truth of the matter is we have lots of laws on investigative journalism and documentaries to protect those who are attempting to expose something. The problem is large corporate investors would totally pull out of a news media company if they did not portray a story in a way that favors their interest. True investigative journalism is almost impossible in a modern day cooperate controlled media system.

Even if we did have laws saying that the news was not misleading all that would happen is the large cooperations would sweat out the media company they are investing in until they pulled a story that wanted to air a story that was not helpful to their interest.

No amount of laws or legislation is ever going to stop media corruption.

Lets look at the most obvious source of media corruption in the world. The oil companies have for YEARS lied to consumers telling them they can't find better ways to produce fuel or fuel efficient vehicles. But yet their research shows otherwise, in the early 40s they had developed better ways of using gasoline before combustion. The best example of this is the Gasoline White Mist system, which works by condensing the gasoline into a light mist and injecting it into the air intake. Gasoline only burns while in a mist form which is why your injectors when clogged produce less gas mileage, so when condensing the gas post injector the gasoline is 100% mist where as even the best tuning on modern fuel injection still produces droplets which are intended to break apart and become mist. The method mentioned before produced 145+ MPG in the early 40s and the oil companies try very hard to hide their research and patents. There have been leaked internal documents which suggest in the 1970s there were vehicles getting as much as 1000 miles per gallon, but I do believe this to be bullshit. The truth is there are hundreds of documented cases of people modifying fuel injection systems to achieve over 100 miles per gallon. In fact there is a limited production car in California that gets 302 MPG hybrid and just over 100 MPG pure motor at 300hp. The oil company also attempts to shut down oil refineries in the United States claiming they are not seeing profits when those refineries are proven by their own documents in front of Congress to be by FAR the most profitable. Why would they do that? They can artificially drive the supply down to see higher profits.

If the oil companies can keep such information from the majority of consumers so easily when there is so much information to contradict it's claims how exactly do you believe a simple law will change anything?

If anything the idea of the government having the power of deciding if something is misleading or not is fucking scary. We could actually see these same people that control the media and buy politicians abusing these laws putting anyone who speaks against them in jail or giving them such high fines they can't speak out. The idea that someone in the government can squelch a journalists voice because they find it misleading is absolutely insane.

I don't know how much fear mongering had to go on in Canada using Fox New's tactics as propaganda to get this to be accepted as a good thing that won't be exploited by influential people who have politicians in their pocket book but it is defiantly being overlooked.

All this law does is allow another way to silence voices big businesses don't want heard. Really, stop and think about the control you are giving to people who are more than likely bought and paid for. Now ask yourself how many of those people are not taking the money and selling out their voters. How many of you would truthfully turn down the millions of dollars they may offer you?

The law is a stupid idea which was either thought up by someone who is already corrupting the government in Canada or by some guy who did not see the potential problems with his idea.

Government control is not always a bad thing but the truth of the matter is, if you make a system that someone can exploit someone will.

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