Blizzhackers

You can still hold arguments in GD..debate is just more structured.

I also do not enjoy (a liberty that is provided for me by the U.S. Constitution) people of religeons other than my own (and AFAIK I'm the only member of this religeon ) soliciting their religeon upon my own without regard for my emotional integrity.

I'm not religous so none of those apply to me.

The word "belief" is used in the Wikipedia article on Religion exactly 30 times. Read the Wikipedia entry on "Belief" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief) because it will provide a much more thorough definition for religion, as I would presume that most people do not really know what Belief really is.
A theory concerning the development of modern-day (actually, all) religions in the world argues that religion and belief (and faith as well) have power in them. This power motivated the Crusaders (as well as the muslims against them) to an unnecessary war. If we are to avoid unnecessity in the future, further action should be taken to reduce the power of religion in people's minds.
However, belief should not be manipulated this way, because as quantum physicists know (and probably the founders of religions as well), belief is the ultimate reason (belief is the reason for everything in the universe - ultimately. Come back and argue with me on that one after watching the movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_bleep ).

I rescend my previous statement, if you haven't seen that movie, you shouldn't be arguing here, since you therefore don't fully understand the concepts you are so ignorantly using.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0399877/tra ... 23196-10-2

THis is what i mean. These were harmless jokes just goofing around


all of a sudden some jack asses who got offended because of my right to voice my freedom of speach comes in here spams the fucking topic and everybody freaks out starts argueing the authentisity of different religions todays legal system and whatever.

Shut the fuck up it was a joke ha ha funny funny get it? It was for shits and giggles. Either say ha ha say that was a stupid joke or get the fuck out. I was in no way contesting your god or any god or gods stfu

and yes i do realise that it is your right to say your opinion DON'T FUCKING SPAM MY THREAD THO. Make a new topic dedicated to such an an argument.

Many were deist a opposed to Christian. Remember, not every reference to God means it's your god. Don't be so conceited.


You said that the purpose of religion is to have morals. That's still incorrect in contemporary society.


You must be fucking retarded to believe that new age shit. The movie had some of the worst physics claims imaginable. According to real science, belief doesn't matter for shit.

lol, lots of theories are still conjectures. And How do i know? I just do. I know this sounds like an easy exit but its hard to explain. I guess faith is the answer?
I'll have a quote now as it seems relevant.



Gravity? wtf, that doesn't exist?
Gavity was "discovered" 300 years ago, so does that mean it doesn't apply anymore?
this is quite an ignorant satement.


Dunno how to answer this.


josh 24:15...


Yes i do know that it is not the same. That is why King James' bible was made so that changed would stop happening.
Also, if you are arguing this point, then i pressume you know the history of my religeon - That Joseph Smith was actually "revising" it with "insperation" from god before he was persucuted by other christians and shot.



If you were more open minded and "tried it out", as it were, then you might understand. Then again, you might not. Although, now people are going to say that i'm "pushing" my religeon on you, which I'm not, but its the only way i can get you to understand why i beleave what i do.



I didn't get offeneded, and I'm sorry i ruined your thread, i was just saying

Also, Missionaries try not to convert people form other religeons(excluding other christian sects) as its dangerous. For instance, if a Muslim comes up to them in the street, they will talk to them, and may even make an appointment, but before they go they will prayer about it beacuse if they did "convert" that person, then they wouldn't be able to go back to there homeland as they would probably be killed for being converted.

Makes you glad you're not idiotic enough to believe the Christian hype at times like these. PS Richard Dawkins is my God.

lol.

..Are you serious? Religion is exactly that, being close-minded.


I have no idea what you're trying to say.


I also don't see how that applies.


There are a million examples for why that cannot possibly be taken seriously. Example: Las Vegas, Atlantic City.
People know that they're going to win, but do they ever?

How, I'm religeous but i'm still open minded - to the point that I will lsiten to people and their teaching - however i know that my god is the God.


You said because the bible is 2000 years old, its no longer applies.

Howsa does it not apply,. you say i beleave who i want and joshua jsut say choose what you want to beleave, but as for me any my house, we will serve the lord. So 'tis saying that i'm gonna serve the lord and you can "serve" who you like.



heh, when i mean i just know, its because of the holy ghost - yeah, say what you will. You can't really argue about this sort of thing as if you havn't had the holy ghost manifest in you, then you will jsut say its crazy.

and this is why you jsut can't argue about it as people say "how do you know?" - which many would probably answer about something to do with the holy ghost - and then the person who asked the question just thinks that crazy.

sorry if im intruding but..




Yeah you'll listen to people and their teachings but you're still close-minded because NOTHING will ever sway you ("however i know that my god is the God")

It's all nice and all to say "i listen to other people", but if you stick to your beliefs with absolute certainty (no matter how irrational they are), you might as well live by yourself in a convent




There is a difference between the bible and gravity: has there been any PRESENT SCIENTIFIC discoveries that contradict gravity?




So you're quoting the bible as your reason for believing in christianity?




So the holy ghost visits you but not me? aww

Wow, lots of bashing around at christiany and then people come around and say that CHRISTIANS are the one bashing around atheists.
Oh the irony.

Like Cows said, religion was created so that people could explain the unexplainable at the time; it is a "religion" because simple minded people at those times shared the idea and agreed to it, let's not ignore the fact that if we show them our inventions they would believe that we are gods ourselves.

Now I can see that religion is losing the battle, less and less people "believe" & more people "know" nowadays than ever before. What preachers and fanatics these days stalk on is events, bad & good events they rush to claim those events in the name of god.
Why do we see poor & undeveloped countries being strongly religious ? Because they lack the information we know today.

If this was a debate held 2000 years ago then Everyone would be agreeing and believing what one man has to say, simply because there is no alternative.