Blizzhackers

Does Agnostic exist, or if you are Agnostic does it mean you are an Athiest?

Agnostic exists. Most agnostic people don't deny the possibility of a god existing but believe it is highly unlikely.

That makes you an athiest

No an athiest doesn't believe in any kind god, I myself am a agnost. I do this there might be some kind of god/creator, but I don't know this for sure.

wrong

Agnostics doubt the existence of [a|any] god(s). Atheists deny the existence of [a|any] god(s).

Atheism makes an absolute statement in some kind of form as no supreme being existing. Of the two, Agnostics appear to be much smarter and rational in that they don't make blatant statements that are unwarranted from such finite creatures.

you either believe or you don't believe. Why do "true believers" wear seatbelts? They shouldn't be afraid of anything if God is protecting them

God made the seatbelts to protect them?

Anyway, this discussion was over after Lord posted.

Atheists seem to have their own religion and preach about there not being a god, and condemn people that do believe in one. In my eyes this is far worse than religious people doing the same. They have a reason to, they want you to get eternal salvation as well.
Atheists just do it to stroke their ego.

I'm agnostic.

you're athiest.

agnostic means you dont know. if you dont know you aren't a believer. if you aren't a believer you're an athiest.

if you ask two questions, you can expect two different answers, from an atheist. If you ask, 'Is there a god', the atheist's reasonable and legitimate answer would be 'I don't know'. If you ask 'Do you believe there is a god', the atheist's answer is 'no'."

If God told you to kill your own son, would you do it?

If you answer "no," you're an atheist.

If you answer "yes," you're dangerous and need to be locked up.


main point: This is a common error. Gnosticism speaks to what you know, not what you believe. Some people presume that agnosticism is some middle ground between theism and atheism. There is no middle ground. An atheist is anyone who cannot answer the following question with a YES. Do you believe god(s) exist? It's not asking what you know, it's asking what you believe. If theism is a belief in god(s), then a-theism (a - meaning without or not) is a lack of that belief.

This is less like a debate and more like punx going im right your all wrong.

no i'm explaining that agnostic in the way people use it, doesnt exist. Most agnostic people are athiests who are to afraid to say it.

the very closest you might come is gnostic-athiest

Why the hell would someone be afraid to say they are an atheist and use agnostic as a cover? Are you back on drugs?